Q&A with Oak Island’s Marty Lagina & Craig Tester

Solomon’s Menorah? The Ark of the Covenant? Jimmy Hoffa? Something’s buried under Oak Island—at least that’s the belief that has led generations of shovel-toting treasure seekers to the small Nova Scotian islet. Exploration of the island is currently being conducted by a tag-team of Traverse Citizens, Craig Tester and Marty Lagina, along with a band of their closest confidantes—friends, family, and a few long-time residents of Oak Island. Their adventures are chronicled on the History Channel’s The Curse of Oak Island, which airs Sundays at 10.

When not moonlighting as treasure hunters, Tester and Lagina head Heritage Sustainable Energy of Traverse City. MyNorth staffer Evan Perry sat down with Tester, Lagina, and their Heritage co-worker, Shari Chouinard, to talk conspiracy theories, coconuts, and the mystery of Row 7.

Spoiler alert! It’s not Jimmy Hoffa.

For the sake of those who haven’t seen the show—and this is a question particularly for Marty—what originally captivated you about Oak Island?

Lagina: Well, my older brother, Rick, read an article in Reader’s Digest in 1965—we always read Reader’s Digest—and the article was about Oak Island. It explained the Money Pit’s wood timbers, and the booby traps, and the treasure that nobody knew anything about. Rick became really fascinated by it. I was the younger brother—and I probably didn’t even read the article—but he comes and tells me, “Hey, look at this! This is really cool!” So he gets me really interested because, well, I’m the younger brother. Sometime later, the Wall Street Journal ran two front-page articles—one by a writer named D’Arcy O’Connor. My dad used to read the Wall Street Journal, so he showed it to Rick and me. That only fed the fire.

The show overlooks much of the story regarding how you came to own a stake in the island. What sort of complications were there regarding purchasing the property, and how much red tape did you have to cut through to begin excavation?

Lagina: It started when I was in Florida. I picked up a magazine called Islands Magazine, which had a bunch of islands for sale in the back, and Oak Island was for sale. So I called Rick and told him. When I called about the island, it turned out that it wasn’t for sale. Somebody had jumped the gun. The agent said that he had a listing from David Tobias—David owned most of the island with his partner Dan Blankenship—but he didn’t. Eventually, we talked David Tobias into selling his share to us. That was in 2007. We’re now fifty-fifty partners with Dan Blankenship.

And the permits?

Lagina: It took us years to get what’s called the Treasure Rights. Canada had something called a Treasure Trove Act—which was a thorny mess. We only got that sorted out two years ago.

Tester: The Canadian government actually got rid of the Treasure Trove Act, so we didn’t have any way of getting a license to excavate at first. The government replaced the Treasure Trove Act with what’s called the Oak Island Act. Only after that was enacted could we apply for licenses.

Lagina: With the Treasure Trove Act, you could apply for licenses to dig anywhere. Now, the only place you can have the rights to treasure—to my knowledge, anyway—is on Oak Island, pursuant to the Oak Island Act.

It’s my understanding that you have to split the findings with Canada.

Lagina: 90-10. We get 90. Except for artifacts. We don’t know what “artifact” means, because almost anything can be an artifact.

So unless you find freshly-minted Canadian dollars…

Lagina: I think it means that we could have gold bars, and maybe jewels. We’re not sure.

Tester: I think coins are probably good…

What’s it like watching yourself on television? It seems like it might be a little like watching a really well-edited home video.

Tester: To me, I guess it doesn’t seem that weird. My wife had a harder time seeing me up on the screen, and then turning to see me in the chair at the same time. It really is like watching a home video.

Lagina: It’s like you’re in your living room with a few people and we’re watching what we did on vacation. The fact that there are maybe millions of other people watching—it just doesn’t register.

Chouinard: From my standpoint, I was watching a really well-done TV show about something I was interested in. It didn’t matter that it featured people I knew; they just happened to be in it. That’s been the weirdest part.

There are a lot of theories that attempt to explain why there’s a booby-trapped, hundred-and-some feet deep hole on Oak Island, and a lot of circumstantial evidence to support those theories. Do you ever get caught up in the whirlwind of ‘what-ifs’ that the island presents? Rick, who is featured prominently on the show, seems to entertain those what-ifs. I only ask because one episode featured a Norwegian writer who helped you discover an undeniably large rock exactly where he thought it would be—which is either extraordinary or very lucky.

Lagina: Rick is a true believer. He’s convinced—convinced—that there is something of at least major historical value. I often scratch my head and think, “What happened on this island?” There’s a lot of room for misinterpretation, but then I’ll think, “Well, my son just pulled coconut fiber out of the shore of the ocean, and Craig—who knows what he’s doing—just dated the fiber to 1200 to 1400 AD. Now what the heck?” But I just don’t know, and it bothers me that we may not succeed in finding out what happened on Oak Island. Rick would never say that, though. He’d say, “We will succeed!”

Tester: At this point, my excitement is tempered. Marty and I gained a lot of experience in oil fields when we were younger, and we had those exhilarating moments—the “Whoa this is fantastic, what if we can do this” moments. But once we got slapped around a bit, and our expectations weren’t matched by reality, we learned to temper ourselves. For Oak Island, it’d be great if it were something big, and I hope it is, but I keep my expectations low. And it’s still fun in the meantime.

Are you excited to go back in the summer? Are there even plans to go back?

Lagina: Oh, we’re not done.

Tester: I’m looking forward to going back.

Lagina: We might yet do some things this winter.

Do you think people might have conspiracy theories about you? You’re part of this story now, and the show has certainly introduced a lot of speculative people to Oak Island.

Lagina: I would be surprised if there weren’t conspiracy theories. They might find out that Craig is a member of the Illuminati or something.

Tester: Yeah, I recently read one on the Internet—they think we’ve already found it, and the government has taken it, and everything is being kept quiet.

And that’s a hard theory to disprove…

Tester: Exactly.

Lagina: Actually, the nicest thing that’s happened during this whole thing is a call I received from a friend, who watches the show with his daughter and son. He said that his daughter—who doesn’t read that much—got really interested and said, “Hey, dad, are there any books about this?” Her dad said that there were, and she responded, “Can you get ‘em? I want to read ‘em!” I thought that was great. And his son—who is not that interested in school—said, “Wow, that’s treasure hunting! How do you get to do that?” And his dad said, “Well, you can’t just quit school and go treasure hunting. These guys are mechanical engineers.” His son said, “Good, that’s what I want to do, because I want to do something exciting like that.” I think that’s the most gratifying thing I’d heard. If that’s happening, then I’m glad we’re on Oak Island.

How has your experience in oil and gas exploration informed your approach to solving the Oak Island mystery?

Lagina: We’re trying to bring science to the whole thing—an educated perspective. We may bumble through the woods a bit, but our approach is, at its core, scientific.

Chouinard: The fact that we’re taking our time, and not going full-steam on every idea that comes to mind, is something we’re proud of. This process has already taken a long time; we wouldn’t rush if it meant making mistakes.

Lagina: It’s a hard nut to crack. Some very smart, very sophisticated people have tried and failed at figuring that place out.

What’s Nova Scotia like in the summer?  Have you become adopted sons?

Lagina: It’s a beautiful place; it reminds me of the U.P.  The people there have been great to us—really nice, really supportive. And I think I speak for all of us when I say I’d like to thank all the people in Nova Scotia, and also the Canadian government, who helped us get to where we are with this project.

We could talk about Oak Island forever, but I want to turn to Marty’s adventures in the world of Northern Michigan wine. How’s your winery, Villa Mari, shaping up?

Lagina: We’re trying to push the envelope. We want make world-class red wine right here in Michigan, and are using advanced techniques to do that. Many of our vines are planted under tunnel greenhouses. The idea with reds is to extend the growing season. We’re on the same latitude as Northern Italy and Southern France, so we get the same amount of sunlight as those regions. The only thing is, we don’t have the heat, since we aren’t on the Mediterranean; the tunnels duplicate that extra warmth. In fact, our wines should be better, because reds grow the best when the days are warm and the nights are cold. Those regions in Europe are pretty warm both day and night. But here, the tunnels make the vines warm during the day, yet that heat dissipates during the night when the temperature drops. That’s what you want.

Tell me about Row 7.

Lagina: It was our first vineyard. This is about 15 years ago, and we planned to plant just 3 acres of vines, which comes out to being about 3000 individual plants for the whole plot. When the vines arrive, they’re dormant, and you have to put them in water to activate them. You have two or three days to plant them once they’ve been placed in the water. To plant them, you have to use a post-hole digger to go deep enough into the dirt, and all the digging is by hand.

The bottom line is that if you worked hard—no bathroom breaks, no food—one person can probably plant 12 vines an hour. There were only two or three of us doing the work—3000 vines in two days. There was just no way; it’s a matter of arithmetic. So we called all the people we knew to come help us.

It was wet and cold and muddy. People are sliding around all over the place. I’d ordered vines that grow well in Northern Michigan, like merlot and cabernet franc, but I also ordered ones that aren’t typically grown up here like syrah, malbec and sangiovese—things that aren’t known to grow well in Northern Michigan. I wanted to experiment with these other varieties, and they were in a separate box.

So chaos ensues, everyone is helping out—which is great—but I go over to the boxes and they’re all empty. I say, “Hey, I wanted to put those ones in a special spot to monitor them. What happened?” Three or four people kinda shrugged: “I don’t know, they’re probably somewhere in that row.” They pointed to what turned out to be row seven.  We still don’t know exactly what’s in our Row 7 blend—it’s a mystery. But it ended up being a nice blend that we’re very proud of.

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  • Rick Lohnes

    Awesome interview!

  • David Wray

    Marty, you are in the oil business which has technologies to find oil and gas deposits miles deep. Have you considered seismic? No need to drain the swamp to get a very accurate 3D map of what is underground. What about ground penetrating radar?

    • Jt Morgan

      What about a few passes using LiDAR?

  • marion chapel

    im a single mom and love your show i love watching it with my 10 year old girl think its a great example that is never to late to follow your dreams or to early and i wish you good luck i look forward to seeing what happens next and following your example

  • judy fenwick

    Does anybody know how to reach Marty and or Rick. I am a RN, currently working in a local hospital and would like so much to come to oak island and help with the excursion. I’m not rich by any means, but y’all might just need a nurse around at some point, and I’m a heck of a nurse. An adventure like this is on my bucket list! Lol…..so if anybody can get rick or Marty to see this please have them contact me at [email protected]. I’m sure I could be very useful for something….I’m pretty tough!! Thanks in advance, I look forward to hearing from someone!

  • cody

    Im in the national pump and compresser business and I have alot of Ideas I would like to do on draining that swamp and would love to visit the island. Makes me wonder every night what lies below and where also they say the 5 channels in the ocean that lead to the hole makes me wonder how back long ago how men would make these channels and tunnel down and angle all the way to the hole without all that water rushing down. How could you create channels under water long ago then tunnel to a hole then create a trap. Its mind blowing……

    • Scott deel

      Ok this is my question to you. What would happen if you put die back in the water in the money pit and 10x then put air in there and find the pips that way. It showed where someone has done it before but if you have multiple people in the water looking while you put the die in wouldn’t that show you the pips and that way you could drain the holes then combine both holes into one big one so you could actually use larger equipment so you could get to the bottom of this mystery?

  • Bob

    Rick (and Marty),

    Thanks for the adventure. Just like you, I read that article in 1965 as a kid, and have amused myself and others over the years thinking and dreaming about it. Just re-found the facts list on activemind.com, and that is quite a list of finds that indicate there must be a path to the treasure, designers who planned such a system would have likely left a relatively easy way in for those who know or find the solution method. The enigma of our lifetimes it is (positively) haunting. You’re living my dream, please keep going!

  • CUTSTUD

    Why can’t the source of the water be blocked? then to pump the tunnels dry?

  • richard henderson

    When Christabol Colon first sighted land in the Americas, he gave this land the name San Salvador. There is much debate now as to where this was, The Carib Indians called the island guanahani . The most common belief is that the island that he first landed on is now completely under water. Over the years, the ice caps and glaciers have been filling the oceans with water, covering up islands and shore lines, and Colon landed in 12 October 1492. The Knights Templar left 100 years prior to this. So the coast line of Oak Island could very well have been 50 to 100 feet deeper than it is now, the land that you suspect as being booby trapped with water, might have been simply ventilated for breathing purposes. Well above any known shore line at the time.. Just a thought.

    • disqus_HiRqE6Oj0d

      That doesn’t explain the rock formations though….

  • Mazarin

    One question, please.
    Why, you guys, don’t use REVERSE ENGINEERING for yours research ?

  • Jim Belbeck

    If it’s possible for the deep penetrating detector to get a reliable reading through ice why not fill the swamp with water and make a map through the ice in the winter?

  • chris S.

    what about possibly using a sluice box to Sift for coin or other metal artifacts.

  • George

    Love the fact you two are doing this together. I too was fascinated by the article from that nat. geo. I found it 10 years later but have followed this search since. Please please don’t give up you are living my dream as I have imagined doing this same thing with my brother and it bringing us closer as it seems to be doing for you two as brothers. Good luck!! looking forward to watching you continue your adventure

  • Roger Marshar

    The diver was WORTHLESS! At no point did his tank go completely under! So he could have never reached more than 4 feet down! They needed a backhoe! If they truly did find a coin at this location, that is more evidence than has ever been recovered. I would have had heavy equipment there the next day.

  • Samantha

    In the triangle shaped water there is a mass in the center. I would check there going with the Knights Templer theory. Looks of the door way.

  • carrol p

    I AGREE with Roger, that diver was worthless and I immediately wondered what he was up to. You don’t have that much color show up on the sonar and then, “Oh my gosh, it’s GONE ” ! He planned to come back when they were gone. He went deep a couple times, but mostly stayed on the top. They should have put the metal detector back in, in front of him, to show him they didn’t believe him, that it had just disappeared. I would first of all put trailcams/video cams on the trees opposite the Mercy Spot, connect to a recorder on their home computers, to watch 24-7 who comes & goes there. Then find where to get one of those huge cement cylinders like they use in big city sewers. Using an excavator, on the most solid area, close to the Mercy Spot, drop the cylinder with the long arm and tap it down, as far as it will go. Somehow put one or two large fans on the top to suck out any gases that might come out of the muck as it dries. This way they can get in there and dig themselves without bringing any more people into this, that might have ulterior motives. They can also work all parts of the swamp, moving the cylinder around. I would eventually check into having a plane or copter go all over the island with ground penetrating xrays, like they used in Egypt to locate burial sites. That way they can SEE how many areas might be worth looking into. Sounds like this was several different groups, favorite hiding spots. And Rick, the reason this is pulling at you so strong, is that you were there in another life ! I first tuned in Sat. before the series finale Sun. and immediately thought you looked like a Knight’s Templar. The longer hair, goatee….I can see you dressed in the long white garment with the large red cross on the front, riding a horse, carrying a staff with the cross flag. Your soul knows something is on this island. But be careful….your brother is with you to keep you level-headed, safe. ALWAYS listen to his common sense. God Bless and Good Luck.

  • jerry satter

    marty all you had to do is start a bon fire at low tide on top of the money pit and the fire slowly burning and boiling off the water would close the valves and empting the pit,when the tide came in the water would push down on the valves keeping them closed until they manualy filled the pit with water defeating the closed valves,letting the water back in.you can test this with a bottle and straws with plugs in them.Thats why the boys seen the fire on the island,thats why you could not steal the treasure they would see the fire for miles.way to simple and ingenius.

  • Frank Peterson

    Hi Rick and Marty, First of all I love the series and what you are trying to find. I would suggest stay with your plans and drain the swamp, then the area you got the metal detector hits, rent a 270 excavator and dig up that section of the swamp. Then sift the material like you would gold mining, or hopefully you will uncover the vault and you will have the right equipment to get to it. I just want you to be safe because of the traps that have been in place for years. One thing I am sure of you two will find a treasure, besides what would a Spanish pieces of 8 be doing in that location where you are?

  • Frank Peterson

    Rick and Marty I also agree with everyone else in here about the diver, remember the diver has been looking for that treasure too for years. I would stick to your plan of draining it and digging bottom up. And the ground penetrating radar is an excellent ideal, heck I would use that on all area’s of interest it would sure save you a lot of work.

  • Traylor Morgan

    Marty, my Q&A is have you looked at old picture’s of the small island that the older lady said was funny she remembered being closer ?
    In her early days as a girl showed the small island and to me it did look closer . Oh and something that went wrong with the Electronic’s , reminded me of ” Raider’s of the lost Ark ” where the people that were not of pure
    Mind were killed by it . Just a Thought !

  • Traylor Morgan

    This as a kicker Lots & Lots of sand bags will block the inlets , as well as the ones to the swamp .

  • Scotty Wilson

    Been following this story since I was a kid ~ Was so hoping the season finale was you finding it ~ Your ghost readings are coins being tossed to the side i bet with each handful of muck ~ Look how you had to search through one clump to find the first coin ~ You have that radar there ~ Scan the whole cross area ~ Good luck Guys ~ I hope you find it ~ Scotty

  • james

    If anyone reads this I just wanted to say saw the season final and the only thing I could not get off my brain is the property owner from the 1750 finds Spanish gold but not revealing were he got it. What if he used mercury to bring the gold to the surface would pockets of mercury give false reading or possibly move gold around so you can not get to it.

  • Sharon Crews

    I just wanted to say that the show is great. I saw one episode and then I had to watch them all. I certainly it continues. There were only 2 things that I did not understand. Since a stone was found at the “kingdom” site, why not check out all of the other points on the “Tree of Life”? If there are stones at each of the points, then it would certainly make a stronger argument that there is something to be found at the “mercy” site in the swamp. It doesn’t look like it would be difficult to check out the other points. I also could not understand why they didn’t find out the exact spot of the excavation site where the 4 men died. They had one of the survivors there. I kept wondering why they didn’t ask him. The men who died thought their site was important. Why not take another look at it? Anyway, thank you guys for a great show!!! It is my favorite!!!

  • Henry McCarty IV

    I have loved the oak island mystery for several years now. I work in construction, so I often try to think of ways to excavate the island. Instead of trying to pump water out, I think a good method would be to pump water INTO the pit, with a water tight seal, and a lot of pressure. This would allow you to see where the source of the water in the hole is coming from. That is the key to finding what exactly is at the bottom. A similar idea to checking the pipes of a drain field. Of course, because 10X is there, the pressure on the pit and on 10X would have to be done in unison, but once you find the source (s) of the water into the pit, you can stop them.

  • Henry McCarty IV

    You should have a website where people can suggest ideas for excavation or extraction. Pool as many ideas together as possible and focus on the best ones. That way people at home can still feel involved and Marty and rick will never run out of ideas for finding the treasure. Maybe even have a donation box to contribute to the expenses. I can’t be there in person, but those things would make those that follow the story feel apart of the process and still help out the team.

  • Henry McCarty IV

    Perhaps the swamp was created as a resultof tthe water filling the hole, and traveling up the drains. I.e. the “finger drains” are located in the swamp and is the reason the swamp is there.

  • Traylor Morgan

    On the Gulf of Mexico they used Locks to hold back the water, at a Ship wreck . Why can’t you get them for the swamp , readings that strong Don’t just go away .

  • Christian

    Rick and Marty I may have an explanation for the readings in the swamp disappearing. When the diver took the rocks out the readings on the metal detector were gone. Listen i would scan the metal detector over the rocks or break them open with a sledge hammer and see what you find. The answer may hide inside those rocks, I really think it’s possible..

  • Daniel Wukits

    My name is Dan and im a treasure diver here in fl, I have a question for marty or another, as in all treasure hunting 99% is research…has anyone looked for tell tale signs of camps…. it would have taken x number of men x number of days fed by heards of animals…. where are the signs? Also has other parts of the island been explored for other coconut fiber allowing for other subterranean avenues… it seems with all the vast amounts of monies dumped into this venture istead of building on where others have left off, a fresh approach might be the answer…has anyone built a computor program to analyze all marked stones off shore N’ such? Now with the spanish coin found has anyone checked in the same area, all the show showed was focus on the diver…what about a dredge in the swamp?…. what a bout the triangle that was destroyed,,,, the timber with the holes?

  • Don D.

    I think that the island and the swamp was used as a marina for ancient ships and the swamp was part of the dry dock system. Once you start excavating the swamp, you will probably start finding evidence to support this.

  • Scott_Wellman

    Marty, loved the series. I believe that Oak Island was two islands at one time. The separation would be from the swamp to the other side, so the swamp was man made. There was once a channel there, all they had to do is stop it at both ends and then do whatever they had to do and refill. Did you coil the whole area? Also you can see what I am talking about by using GE, it’s as plain a day. Any thoughts?

  • Robot

    The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

    The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.
    This organization is known as – The “Free Masons”.

    The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

    It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic 33 degree members of the Free Masons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.
    These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.
    These members were:
    Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers – Vice Admiral – Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge – Premier Grand Lodge of England
    George Anson, Baron Anson – Admiral of the Fleet
    George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle – Commander-In-Chief
    Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel – Rear Admiral – Brother to George Keppel
    William Keppel – Lieutenant-General – Brother to George Keppel
    George Pocock – Admiral – Commander of the Invasion of Havana
    and
    Benjamin Franklin – First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.

    The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed
    all forms of secret organizations, including the Free Masons.

    The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.

    Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.
    Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.
    The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack.
    They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their
    plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish Galleons and the 2 British Man of War.
    This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.

    At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic 13th degree “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which
    ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground
    and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft. A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever.
    The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern below ground was located and could access it by digging down 20 feet.

    Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

    The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate
    the treasure.

    1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant

    2 drilled holed stones

    1 large stone cross

    These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is
    today located.

    Is the treasure still in this cavern?

    I believe it was removed in 1795

    One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.
    These lights were made by the Free Masons when they returned for their treasure.

    This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States – acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

    The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Free Masons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.

    • jerry satter

      did anyone read my post its that simple

      • Robot

        The Money Pit’s main shaft was never intended to be used again to recover the
        treasure, especially once the air lock at level eight was punctured and the shaft was flooded.
        The Free Masons only used this shaft as a means to conceal their treasure and transport it up into the cavern.
        The cavern was located some distance away from the Money Pit and above the ground level, so it could not be flooded and damaged.

        This cavern would be accessible to the Free Masons by them triangulating the
        coordinates with the use of the markers left behind and a set degree on the
        Sextant.

        Once they recovered the treasure (1795) they concealed the small entry hole
        needed to remove it and whisked the treasure away to its new home and purpose

        • jerry satter

          if that was the case and the treasure was gone why would they rebuild the platforms.Now try boiling the water out of the pit at low tide it would be cheap to try it

          • Robot

            Your ideal on how to drain the Money Pit is original, but I would presume
            that it is flawed with the belief that the flood tunnels do not extend past low tide.

            It is also believed that with the ingenious design of the flood tunnel to Smith Cove there is also a similar flood tunnel to South Cove.

            The construction labour for these tunnels was done by the best miners in the world at the time.
            Cornish Tin Miners were employed by the Royal Navy for military expeditions, such as the invasion of Havana.

            Once the treasure was secured in the cavern the Free Masons
            back filled the tunnel from the cavern back to the Money Pit as it was no
            longer needed and to prevent any attempt to access it.

            All the metal parts from the Spanish Galleons and any evidence of them having been on the island were placed at the bottom of the Money Pit shaft.

            The dirt excavated from the shaft was back filled back into the shaft to conceal the entrance and discourage any followers.

          • jerry satter

            everyone is concerned about the length of the flood tunnels and not the valves that control the tide in the pit.If you look at it like it was a toilet 90 feet under ground theres a trap in it so you cant pump it out because they would refill. you have to push it out the valves and change the pressure differential in the pit to be less then the smaller flood tunnels pressure thus closing the valves look at the construction of the pit platforms and it will become obvious,the oak and fiber would burn and slowly fall and push down as it burned.What i need is marty laguina email or phone number

          • Robot

            Still believe the treasure is still there and buried at the bottom of the Money Pit?
            They head up this company and you may possibly reach them below:
            Good Luck!
            Heritage Sustainable Energy
            121 East Front Street
            Suite 200
            Traverse City, MI 49684
            Tel: (231) 935-3659; Fax:
            (231) 929-0242

            Email: [email protected]

          • jerry satter

            have you ever seen a chimney fire imagine a 90 foot tall one

          • jerry satter

            they do not answer there emails

          • Robot

            I know, I have not been able to post on my own on this site either

            This is an interesting read which will explain that the wood previously in the Oak Island shaft is no longer there.
            http://oakislandtreasure.co.uk/archive/hedden/1953/hedden230853.PDF
            There are also numerous shafts dug around it through out the years

            The evidence, objects and clues found all pointed to one logical explanation.

            That being the “truth” – The Freemasons built it!

            “… when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth…”

            Start by eliminating the “impossible” as to who could not
            have built it.

            This lies with the “probable” time line of construction

            It is claimed that the three discoverers found the pit in 1795 ad

            If the information as to the large mature Oak Tree capable of supporting the Block and Tackle hanging over the Pit is correct than it would have been a tree of at least 75 years of age.

            Experts state that Oak trees (not of old growth oak forests) have a
            tree life span of from 100 – 150 with 125 being the middle years.
            This would place the earliest construction of the Money Pit at around 1745 ad

            The Oak wood from the platforms carbon tested in 1981 to 1670 ad – 1780 ad

            http://www.oakislandtreasure.c

            The use throughout the Pit and Tunnels of Coconut Fiber would prove
            that no construction earlier than the 1700 ad would have been possible.

            Coconut Trees were only introduced outside of Malaysia after 1550 ad
            and the Coconut Fiber was not possible for use until the latter part of
            1600’s with no known industry producing the coconut fiber.

            http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/l…ungi/seeds-of-trade/page.dsml?section=regions&region_ID=8&page=spread&ref=coconut

            Other items located on Oak Island support 18th century:
            Boatswains Whistle
            Wrought Iron ruler
            Wrought Iron Scissors
            Wrought Iron Nails
            Iron Fragments
            Cornish Poll-Pick, Axe
            Shoe
            Block and Tackle
            Parchment Fragment

            This all supports a time line of around 1750 ad and eliminates Vikings,Druids and Knight Templars as being possible builders.

            Pirates would also have been unlikely to have constructed a Treasure Vault
            on Oak Island.
            It would have been an unnatural behavior for Pirates to go to this extreme
            and leave any sort of treasure for any length of time.
            Oak Island is located 40 miles south of Halifax, Nova Scotia, in an enclosed Mahone Bay
            After the 1600’s, Halifax was England’s central location for its Royal Navy in the New World.
            Mahone Bay would have been a one way trap for any Pirate going in or
            out with them being very conspicuous.

            Oak Island in 1762 ad, was a fortunate and planned choice for
            the Freemasons, as It was far easier to conceal their treasure in the New
            World with the help of the Royal Navy and the Masonic organization presently there.
            Noted New world Free Masons:
            Johnathan Belcher – Lieutenant Governor of Nova Scotia (1760 – 1763)
            He was based in Halifax Nova Scotia and was in charge over the Royal
            Navy at what is Oak Island.
            His father was Jonathan Belcher senior, first Freemason of North
            America and the “Senior Freemason of America”
            John Mitchell – creator of the Mitchell map 1755 ad
            He was stationed in Halifax and provided a very concise map showing
            the islands around Nova Scotia and what is today Oak Island.

            The “true” builders of Oak Island Treasure Pit who had the motive, opportunity and the best ability were the “Freemasons”.

          • Hank Wanky

            Martin G. Lagina

            Master Key Energy, LLC
            718 Notre Dame Street, Suite 100
            Grosse Pointe, Michigan 48230
            Tel: 313.885.1200
            Fax: 313.885.1779

        • jerry satter

          level 8 was sealed to keep the wood dry. and they used oak for its btu rating extremely hot.Theres no traps this is common sense start a fire!!!!

        • jerry satter

          where do you get this fantasy info

          • Robot

            I have spent 20 years dealing with the fantasy of Oak Island

            If mankind’s own imagination or fantasies had not challenged the desires to search out and solve the mysteries in front of him, then the great discoveries of our world would not have taken place.

            The “Wheel” may not have been invented, now found in everything from
            clocks to vehicles to turbines.

            “The World is Flat”, would have discouraged Columbus from discovering America, and “The Earth being the Center of the Universe”, could have halted space exploration.

            “Ask a child to name an ancient Egyptian ruler and they will either say Cleopatra or Tutankhamen.

            The reason for this is the excavation of the latter’s tomb by Howard Carter in 1922 in the Valley of the Kings. Such was the wealth of treasures and objects in the tomb, and Carter’s meticulousness, it took eight years to empty the tomb and transport its contents to Cairo.”

            “Heinrich Schliemann would not have discovered Troy, along with
            the Mycenaean sites Mycenae and Tiryns from his idea that Homer’s Iliad and Virgil’s Aeneid, actually reflected historical events”

            No, skepticism only pushes on true discoverers to find the real truth to mysteries!.

            They realize the logical evidence discovered will weigh in their favor, and one day prove that something of great importance is or was buried at “Oak Island”.

          • jerry satter

            i am just trying to empty a pit full of water not reinvent the wheel.columbus did not discover america Blame the teacher not the child,1922 travel in egypt was really really slow.

          • Robot

            Columbus did discover both Central and South America on his third voyage. He was not the first to arrive in North America as that distinction goes to the Vikings.
            The difference between “Skeptics” and “True Discoverers” is that Skeptics see the Money Pit as “half full of water” and Discoverers see it as being “half empty”.

          • jerry satter

            i believe its a pessimist and an optimist,and again why put charcoal on a platform unless your going to burn it! am i the only one that sees this obvious solution.

          • Robot

            Charcoal, which is the ash from the burning of the ships wood + Clay, from the ground + Coconut Fiber, which is an excellent matting and resilient to salt water = Cement
            This creates a powerful waterproof sealant, equal to Fiberglass (which had not been invented then).

          • jerry satter

            you are correct in its wet state. but this platform was above the flood level so it was dry, oak, coconut fiber pitch charcoal in its dry state is unbelieveably hot and puts out a lot of BTUs.I cant imagine burning a ship when it was easier to just scuttle it and sink it , it wasn’t clay it was wax and pitch and putty and they didn’t need much of that. All the fuss about the coconut fiber is hype. It was used in the hold of ships for years as a packing material to keep things in place so they did not shift around in the high seas.

          • Manuel Correia

            Robot, im from S.Miguel island of azores, i admire your knowlege and percepction of the oak island history, i share the same opinion , that the treasure have been removed long time ago , and like you say the money pit was just used to hide the treasure, just used once. In actualy i hope explorers can find what was hidden in that cave , to close that chapter and see if was just money ,or something else like docments(remember that liquid mercury was found generaly used to preserve paper)
            [email protected], i leave my mail if you want to share some story or fact Robot

          • Robot

            o
            Hi Manuel

            I have email you my Celestial Map of where the Freemason’s Treasure Vault is
            located

            The Freemasons used the information supplied by their esteemed friend and
            associate Sir Francis Bacon to build the Oak Island Money Pit for their purpose
            to change the course of mankind.

            I trust that we today are capable of understanding what this treasure’s true
            purpose was to be and how we have all benefited from it!

    • Hank Wanky

      Well that’s interesting. It could explain why no one has found treasure in the Money Pit and could explain the fairly simple cipher on the stone (i.e. if the stone were meant as bait, you’d want to make the cipher fairly easy to translate). But the coconut fibers found on the island are supposedly carbon dated to around 1260 to 1400, centuries earlier than the events in your theory. Also you’re making a lot of very specific factual claims. What are your sources?

      • Robot

        Yes, it is very hard to believe that anyone who built and placed their treasure in a pit would be foolish enough to tell whoever was looking for it how much farther to go and what they would find.

        Unless they had a logical reason for doing so!

        I have spent 20 years researching and have extensive proof backing up my theory.

        The Free Masons had a diabolical plan, but never imagined the investigating power of today’s internet.

        I hope to post more of my evidence and look forward to knowledgeable forum members challenging my theories.

        Discarding all the items found within the Money Pit, it is still hard to discount a key piece of evidence as proof to whom may have built it. That evidence lies with the use of the Coconut Fiber found within the Main Shaft and Flood Tunnels

        My theory for “The (Untold) Story of the Oak Island Money Pit” does not support the carbon dating of the Coconut Fiber to be between 1260ad and 1400ad, with 1330ad being between those dates

        It was done at a University in Saskatchewan, during the 70’s, and I along with others believe the results are in error.
        http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/content/view/219/176/
        http://forum.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4475&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=130

        This time frame has led to many earlier dated theories of Vikings, Knight Templars, and Druids with all of them using the Coconut Fiber for their construction during this time period.

        Investigating into the history of the Coconut Tree shows that although it originated in Malaysia during the latter 1200ad, it did not cross over to Africa, Europe, South and Central America until mid-1550ad with the Coconut Fiber not available for use until the latter 1600’s.
        http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/life/plants-fungi/seeds-of-trade/page.dsml?section=regions&region_ID=8&page=spread&ref=coconut

        Unless the Vikings portaged their ships to the Atlantic Ocean, the use of Coconut Fiber was not accessible to them

        It is interesting that the “Free Masons” choice and use of Coconut Fiber was by no means an accident, as the coir fiber is relatively waterproof, and is one of the few natural fibers resistant to damage by saltwater. By bonding Coconut Fiber with clay and ash (from the burning of their ships), they produced a strong sealant which would last a very long time.

        I would like to call for a more recent carbon dating to be done on the found Coconut Fibers

        • Hank Wanky

          While the free mason stuff is interesting (and maybe they were behind all of this), one of the most important books about Oak Island was written by Reginald V. Harris, who was a 33rd degree mason in Nova Scotia. I haven’t read the book, only references by others, but he chronicled the history of the treasure hunt, correct? Wouldn’t he have known about any masonic connection and if the masons had removed any treasure in the past?

          • Robot

            The Free Masons’ organization today and before , is very different from the re-established 1717ad English Masons of Washington Shirley and Benjamin Franklin.
            I do not believe that Reginald V. Harris was aware of this theory prior to his death.
            It has taken many years to unravel this connection to the Free Masons.
            I do credit him for a very important find which is the corner stone for the rediscovery of the lost cavern.
            When the final chapter is revealed he will receive his credit.

        • jerry satter

          the rock told how to rebuild the pit after it was burned

        • jerry satter

          coconut fibers were leftover debris they threw into the bay

      • disqus_HiRqE6Oj0d

        Theory.

  • Scotty Wilson

    Go to Homedepot.com & type in ECHO Pas in the search ~ These attachments I have used in clearing an acre of over growth ~ 3 of those attachments I believe would do you wonders in clearing the muck out of the swamp ~ Along with an extension or 2 ~ I’d love to come muck around but I’m poor ~ Get er Done (;o{> Grappling hooks & long tow chains might go faster ~ Be Safe

  • Keith McFarlane

    Hello Marty et al you adventurous and yes perhaps obsessed folks.
    I have been privileged enough to be able to watch the programs regarding your quest for treasure or whatever on Oak Island on the History Channel, which I have watched with great interest recently here in Trinidad W.I.
    I have been on an extended contract, working in the Oil & Gas Industry (3D Designer) here in Trinidad for just shy of 10 Years and 10 years rotational contract in Nigeria West Africa prior to that.and am due to head back home to Scotland next week, after which….who knows.
    One thought has come to my mind which you may consider stupid and wasteful of your time, but I thought , why don’t you guys just sink a couple of steel Caissons (say 15ft Diameter) down both the money pit & site 10x or whatever. Doing so, would isolate any inflow of liquids from any tricky boreholes or whatever, that who knows refined and manufactured.
    Keith

  • Duke Pethes

    Hey Rick & Marty, are there going to be more episodes after the find? Let me know please

  • phil martorelli

    I too have been interested in Oak Island for many years and would like to see you solve the mystery. Nobody will go through all the trouble to dig a money pit then bury a treasure somewhere else. That said, I also don’t think anyone would dig a deep hole, put a treasure on the bottom, then build flood tunnels that when activated would flood the pit so much that even they could not retrieve the treasure. Somewhere above where the flood tunnels were activated they dug a horizontal tunnel, built a vault, sealed the treasure, then back filled the tunnel. I would guess that the tunnel runs towards the opposite side of the island. I would use ground penetrating equipment, and start about 50 feet away from the pit to try and cross paths with the shaft. If ground penetrating doesn’t go deep enough I would excavate a trench to seek deeper depths. Good luck, Phil

  • Paige Baker

    Just a question. What if the reason that there are hits and then no hits on the metal detectors, is that the treasure is floating on something? I was just thinking on the points as underground tunnel systems, and that idea come up.

    • Robot

      If the deciphering on the marker stone at level 8 was correct and the treasure contains 2 Million pounds of gold, then the weight of this would definitely not float.
      It would also show up as quite a noticeable hit on any metal detector.
      The sensitivity of these metal detectors may have been hitting junk metal spread out over the swamp.
      If the quantity of gold is correct, it would represent 24 million troy ounces of gold, valued today at over 40 Billion Dollars
      This is not including collector’s value on rare coinage.

  • rose morgan

    I thought the last pieces of rock that were pulled up from the swamp looked like they would match the pieces of rock in the shape of a diamond on the map. I also thought the map from the metal detecting experts that showed the red and orange was reliable. I hope you guys find whatever the red from that map indicates because that was what looked the most promising. Best of luck, we’re all pulling for you.

  • Beatrice

    When will the series return????

  • jerry satter

    i dont think the treasure hunter brothers look at this website they have not answered one question

    • Evan Perry

      Hi Jerry,
      The Lagina’s certainly don’t manage this page; they may look at it, but I wouldn’t expect any responses from the two.
      Evan Perry

  • jim capps

    During the last meeting at the end of the series I saw a group of men seated around a table wearing poker faces and Mona Lisa smiles. I feel they were hiding the fact they believed they had found a cache of treasure and maybe a way into the “Money Pitt” tunnels without digging. This is my impression and there were events during the last show to support this hypothesis. Rick went out in the swamp with a metal rod to probe for the “Misery stone”. He was accompanied by the metal detector representative. They located a signal with the metal detector they had with them. Rick found a sizable flat surface under the water that was over and around the source of the signal. He was so excited he jumped in and stood on what I believe he said was a stone surface. The other guy jumped in with him and stood there outlining the signal with his detector. Rick later approached Marty with their discovery stating they found “The Vault”. They went back to the swamp and cleaned out the area and found a coin as well as exploring the area with the large detector. The group met again and discussed the amazing results of their survey. They returned with a diver who removed a couple of rocks and debri. I feel he also outlined the stone surface they were standing on but did not reveal this while they were filming. Rick feverishly cleared the area to assist in this endeavor. They ended with the signal mysteriously disappearing. I believe this was a rouge to close the story so they can later come back with the right equipment to remove the large stone cover of “the Vault” and possibly discover a way into the tunnels. If i am correct i would recommend continued secrecy. Beware of men in black suits and sun glasses, soldiers without insignias and black helicopters without numbers. I have enjoyed your escapades so far and look forward to further coverage of your endeavors.

  • Robot

    One has to ascertain how much past evidence, affidavits and historical stories are required or needed to convince and prove ones’ theories to others.

    It would compare to the Billions of people today who believe in their found Faith through recorded stories, without providing the claimed ancient hard evidence (Ark of the Covenant, Holy Grail, Rod of Moses and Golden Tablets, etc.).

    Like Heinrich Schliemann’s discovery of Troy from his theory that Homer’s Iliad and Virgil’s Aeneid was a true story, other searchers have also found laid up treasures from believing in recorded stories.

    Yes it is important, but not necessary to locate and prove past evidence.

    It is more important and necessary to proceed with investigating from these stories to try and locate “new” evidence that will help prove or disprove the existence of a treasure buried at Oak Island.

    Time is of the essence that we move ahead to try and solve this mystery before nature by the threat of global warming with rising ocean waters, destructive storms, lost existing markers, or encroaching land developments all hinder future possibilities.

    I commend the Lagina brothers with their faith in these stories and with them committing their time, effort and resources to try to confirm it.

    I trust the knowledgeable discussions on forums like this will help add to it and hope to add new evidence with my recently researched theory as to where I believe the Treasure Vault is located.

  • Evan Perry

    Hi all,

    Thanks for keeping this forum alive. I wanted to give a little follow up about the show:

    The Curse of Oak Island has resumed filming as of early 2014—the show was picked up for another season by the History Channel. I’m not sure how many episodes will be broadcast for the second season, and I also don’t know when it will be televised. However, it’s a conservative guess that the next season will run from 8 to 13 episodes (based on my assuming the History Channel would want to expand the length of the season) and that it will be broadcast in the winter, as most of the filming and excavation/exploration work will take place in the summer of 2014.

    I also want to say that the Laginas and those attached to the Oak Island excavation do not review the contents of this page; Marty, Craig and Shari were very nice to do the interview, but they are very busy will other, more pedestrian projects.

    I can say with certainty that the Laginas, Testers, and all involved with this project are motivated by discovery and transparency—the very notion of their having a TV show evinces their willingness to share their results with the public. So speculate as you please; just be aware that their work is framed as a TV show, so of course certain information that one might expect to be obvious may be withheld for dramatic purposes. Those participating in this forum are likely to be the most interested in actively learning about Oak Island and its history, but the TV show is designed to appeal to a much wider audience. While I would love to personally discover more about the goings-on at Oak Island by speaking with the Laginas et al., I prefer to allow the show to speak for itself. Ultimately: In Rick I Trust.

    Thanks,
    Evan Perry
    MyNorth.com

  • Evan Perry

    Hi all,

    Thanks for keeping this forum alive. I wanted to give a little follow up about the show:

    The Curse of Oak Island has resumed filming as of early 2014—the show was picked up for another season by the History Channel. I’m not sure how many episodes will be broadcast for the second season, and I also don’t know when it will be televised. However, it’s a conservative guess that the next season will run from 8 to 13 episodes (based on my assuming the History Channel would want to expand the length of the season) and that it will be broadcast in the winter, as most of the filming and excavation/exploration work will take place in the summer of 2014.

    I also want to say that the Laginas and those attached to the Oak Island excavation do not review the contents of this page; Marty, Craig and Shari were very nice to do the interview, but they are very busy will other, notably more pedestrian projects. I wouldn’t recommend attempting to contact them.

    I can say with certainty that the Laginas, Testers, and all involved with this project are motivated by discovery and transparency—the very notion of their having a TV show evinces their willingness to share their results with the public. So speculate as you please; just be aware that their work is framed as a TV show, so of course certain information that one might expect to be obvious may be withheld for dramatic purposes. Those participating in this forum are likely to be the most interested in actively learning about Oak Island and its history, but the TV show is designed to appeal to a much wider audience. While I would love to personally discover more about the goings-on at Oak Island by speaking with the Laginas et al., I prefer to allow the show to speak for itself. Ultimately: In Rick I Trust.

    Thanks,

    Evan Perry
    [email protected]

  • Robot

    Why Pirates had little need to build the Money Pit

    With my theory I believe “Pirates” did not play a part in the building of the Money Pit at Oak Island.

    Pirates had little need to build a private bank such as the Money Pit at Oak Island when there were more than enough Banks, Financial Houses and Merchants living in New York during this time period to accommodate them.

    Pirates such as Every, Morgan, Tew and the famous Captain Kidd bribed New York’s governors for protection and used these Financial Houses to launder their treasure. Captain Every was so prolific at this that he was one of the few pirates to retire back to an estate in England with benefits.

    Many of the men we call pirates today were legal privateers acting with the full blessings of England.
    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
    It was only if they attacked British ships or after England signed peace treaties with their enemies were these privateers labeled again as pirates.

    During the Golden Age of Piracy many of these famous Pirates chose to live in New York while Edward Hyde, 3rd Earl of Clarendon was appointed as colonial governor (1701 – 1708).
    Governor Hyde’s flamboyant manner of dressing was only surpassed by his reputation as the worst corrupt governor Britain ever appointed to an American colony.

    Captain Kidd lived in a mansion in New York and was also involved with the construction of Trinity Church.

    It was only later when England proceeded to rid their colonies of this corruption and pirating that many moved on.

    England encouraged loyalist merchants and privateers to move to Nova Scotia as part of their reaction against the growing revolution in the American colonies and these colonies’ willing acceptance to trade with France and Spain against British embargos.

    Many British privateers operating out of Lunenburg Nova Scotia attacked these ships and used Halifax merchants similar to those operating in New York to exchange their booty with.

  • Robot

    Please view my posted Freemason’s Celestial Map showing the location of the “Treasure Vault” on Oak Island.

    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/oak-island/390565-history-channel-oak-island-mini-series-january-5-2014-a-31.html

    Unlike a Pirate’s Map written on a piece of paper with trees and rocks for markers, my research shows that the 18th Century Freemasons were far too intelligent to rely on any man made printed maps or natural markers to relocate their Treasure Vault.

    The treasure they buried was far too precious to be subject to possible destruction from the actions of man or nature.

    These Freemasons were navigators, astronomers, and mathematicians who I believe used indestructible Celestial Markers for their map.

    I believe from my research that they used such a map for their Treasure Vault at Oak Island.

    This Celestial Map was derived from their past Grand Master of Freemasonry and their esteemed member of the Royal Society of London, Sir Francis Bacon.

    Francis Bacon left many clues to where this treasure would be located and on following these I believe I have located where the Treasure Vault at Oak Island is.

    I used my computer’s 18th Century’s Celestial Program with the time and dates supplied by Bacon’s clues to reconstruct the markers the Freemasons left behind, the location of the Money Pit and the final destination of the Treasure Vault.

    Final proof would require persuading the Lagina brothers or Fred Nolan (if this specified location is on his property) to proceed with digging the necessary 20 foot hole.

  • Robot

    Time is of the essence that we move ahead to try and solve this mystery before nature by the threat of global warming with rising ocean waters, destructive storms, lost existing markers, or encroaching land developments all hinder future possibilities.

    Or with today’s announcement – The Government of Canada!

    http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/n-s-ndp-seeks-stricter-regulations-to-protect-oak-island-treasure-1.1791448

  • Bill McCuan

    have you dove around the island to look for an entrance

  • Ellen

    I beleive the oak island mystery was a water treatment set up to treat black water to provide a constant source of grey or even fresh water nessesary for sea going trips. The oaks were for ship repair or housing.

  • Steven Clark

    Marty, I work in construction and have built some structures below a water line. Have you thought of building a Caisson around a small area like where you found the “8” coin? That way you could pump the water out of just that one area and see exactly what your digging around. That way you would not have to drain that entire swamp, just the enclosed area.

  • Justin Barrie

    I work as a welding and gas distributor and have a couple ideas. I’m sure someone has come up with this but just in case, I wanted you to see it. I believe you could cap 10x and fill it with gas in order to push the water out and produce bubbles on the surface above any potential vents. The process would be rather simple assuming the existing shaft has a good seal. A flat sheet or better yet domed cap would be placed over the existing shaft. A valve would be placed on the cap for filling. If resources allow a camera with a winch could be installed below the cap to track progress. The chamber then could be tested for potential outflow by dumping a few small tanks into the pit to determine the resistance so you will know what amount of gas will be needed to completely flush the chambers. From this point there are a few options.
    Nitrogen 12 pak. A steady flow unit capable of delivering 1968 cubic feet of nitrogen. Second would be gp’s (gas packs). Stored as a liquid these cylinders deliver 5500 cubic feet of nitrogen but are a little slower due to the gas having to evaporate in the cylinder but they are available in 500 psi output units. 4 or five of these tanks should be able to push that water down as long as there aren’t too many ways out. Finally is the nuclear option. You could have a liquid nitrogen tanker hook up and dump the entire load into the shaft. That should push all of the water out and leave a distinctive sign on the surface as to where any vents might be. Ideally a helicopter would be on site to verify and mark outlet points

    • Robot

      There has been over 40 tunnels, shafts, drilled holes, some horizontal shafts, all in the vicinity of the original Money Pit Shaft.

      Today they are not even sure of which hole is the original shaft.

      My map does locate where the original shaft once existed.

      One of the best engineering reports written is by John Whitney Lewis with his notes of 1957.

      http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/archive/lewis.pdf

      It corroborates with others that the Money Pit’s depth was 171 feet.
      Numerous drilled holes showed that the bedrock was located around the 230 foot level.

      My theory is that Cornish Miners dug the pit down to bedrock and then built their spiral tunnel to the Treasure Vault at the 105 foot level
      This was a spiral circular tunnel 3 feet 10 inches wide by 6 feet 4 inches high. It conforms with Cornish Tin Miner’s specs whom I believe dug these tunnels.
      They would pull the treasure on wooden sleds (one was found on Oak Island) behind them in a spiral low incline formation up to the Treasure Vault.

      The stone inscription stated what one would find “2 million pounds 40 feet below in this shaft”.
      When it was translated as 2 million pounds what it really meant was 2 million pounds of metal

      The Freemasons needed a location to dispose of all the metal canons, ballast, and parts from the scuttled Spanish Galleons, their buried patriots, and other evidence.

      One must look North West of the Money Pit to find the final location of this spiral tunnel’s destination!

  • Robot

    The Flood Tunnels found on Oak Island
    The ingeniously engineered flood tunnels were added after the Money Pit Shaft and the Treasure Vault was built.

    I believe these 5 tunnels funneling into 1 from Smith’s Cove and the possible same tunnels from South Shore Cove were the design of James Brindley (1716-1772).

    James Brindley was a master engineer in Britain who used the technique of “puddling” for the construction of canals and later for dams.

    Puddling is the process of lining a channel with puddle clay to create a watertight barrier.
    Puddle clay can be described as (blue clay) which was found in abundance within the Money Pit Shaft and these Tunnels.
    Blue clay is not indigenous to Oak Island and no previous explanation as to its purpose for being there has ever been explained. (Note coincidentally a thread on this forum discussing Blue Clay)

    The unique ocean tide associated with Oak Island allowed the workers to build these 5 tunnels out into the bay while the tide was out.

    In order that these tunnels did not fill up with debris with each tidal movement a filtering system was devised.
    This consisted of the (famed) coconut fibers along with rocks, gravel and eelgrass.
    Eelgrass was used in Europe and especially in Holland to seal dikes.

    The construction of the main tunnel met up with the 5 feeder tunnels at a junction box just a short distance from the shore.
    This junction box was located in the 1800’s when a local cow fell through the ground and had to be rescued.

    The final construction of this booby trap prior to the back fill of the Money Pit Shaft was the placement of the air lock at level 8.
    Once this was sprung the Money Pit Shaft was destroyed with the ocean water filling the Pit up to the water table.

    Fortunately, the treasure would always remain dry and secure up in the Treasure Vault until ready for it to be retrieved.

    • nicole

      Do you belive they will do more shows of the curse of oak island because it seems to have no info on anymore shows.

      • Robot

        Hi Nicole

        Evan Perry stated 3 months ago

        “The Curse of Oak Island has resumed filming as of early 2014—the show was picked up for another season by the History Channel. I’m not sure how many episodes will be broadcast for the second season, and I also don’t know when it will be televised. However, it’s a conservative guess that the next season will run from 8 to 13 episodes (based on my assuming the History Channel would want to expand the length of the season) and that it will be broadcast in the winter, as most of the filming and excavation/exploration work will take place in the summer of 2014.”

        I am hoping that after they have tried searching the swamp they will concentrate on the northern part of the island where i show my clues to the location of the Treasure Vault.

  • matt

    I figured it out!!! Holy shit I figured it out! Thanks to mathematics I figured out how to get to the bottom.

  • matt

    You may think I’m nuts but I solved the riddle….. 12 years of studying this phenomenon and I finally got the answer. It may only be a theory but it all comes together please listen to me. Don’t dig anymore it won’t get u there. That’s what they want u to do the more u dif the worse it gets. The first thing u have to do to get there is so simple the math adds up and I promise this will work no matter how many water traps are present. There’s many man made traps to disguise the simplicity of the riddle they left years ago. Please don’t think I’m nuts I really figured this out and no one has to die. Gosh I can’t believe I wasted so much of my life for such a simple answer. Have those Lvaginas brothers contact me.

  • matt

    Oh freaking auto correct! Lagina brothers

  • timothy clifford

    Hello my name is Timothy Clifford and could possibly have some vital information for you and your partners not only will it give you a better outline of the island for the time period in witch whatever is laying beneath the surface but a more direct path for the future your can email me at [email protected]