Nearly a year ago, MyNorth.com published an interview with Mary Lagina and his quest to find ancient buried treasure and thus end the curse of Oak Island in Nova Scotia. Lagina’s quest, in which he is joined by his son, Alex, his colleague Craig Tester (all from Traverse City) and his brother, Rick (from Michigan’s Upper Peninsula) is the focus of the History Channel reality show The Curse of Oak Island. As the show progresses through its second season, the drama is heightening. Besides filming all last summer in Nova Scotia, the History Channel recently brought its cameras to Traverse City to interview Marty in his hometown.
In the wake of all of this, our MyNorth Q & A with Oak Island’s Marty Lagina & Craig Tester, written by former MyNorth staffer Evan Perry, has become an online one-hit wonder for us. Every morning we log on to Google Analytics to see that the Oak Island-obsessed from around the world have found our article—and left their own theories for solving the mystery of Oak Island.We have also received voice mail messages, faxes and I have received a personal Facebook message, all from people desperate to share their Oak Island theories or information.
In the spirit of Believe It Or Not, we thought we’d serve those comments up here, all in one place. As you are digging in, you’ll want to make sure to read our Q & A with Oak Island’s Marty & Craig Tester. Also, watch for a sequel interview by Evan Perry coming soon to MyNorth. And finally, tune in to the History Channel Tuesdays at 9 to follow the drama of The Curse of Oak Island.
Faxed to our MyNorth offices in Traverse City, Dec. 9, 2014
December 6, 2014
Gentlemen,
I watched several of the programs that you host (Oak Island: The Search for Buried Treasure) and subsequently decided to so some personal research on the subject.
After working on it for several days, I began to note a pattern in the symbols of the “cipher stone” and began to map my ideas on paper.
I have been attempting to get in touch with the two of you over the last couple days to let you know that I broke the code, and have been able to chart out the location of the “money pit”. The money pit is shown as being merely and entry point to the actual treasure chamber. The treasure chamber location is also indicated on the map. It appears to be a fairly large chamger. From the detail on the chart I think that I have a good idea of what constitutes “part”- (if not all) the “treasure” and “who” is responsible for creating the works.
RE: OAK ISLAND.
December 9, 2014
I DECODED THE CROSS AND THE CIPHER STONE. IT RESULTED IN A MAP UNLIKE ANY THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN. YOU FOLD THE SIDES AND ENDS TO FORM A RECTANGULAR “BOX”. THE VIEW LOOKING DOWN AT THE “FLOOR” IS A MAP PROJECTION OF OAK ISLAND. THE VIEWS ON THE “WALLS” ARE CROSS-SECTIONAL PROJECTIONS OF THE ISLAND. THE COFFER DAM LOCATIONS AND ANGLES OF “ALL” THE FLOOD CHANNELS ARE SHOWN. THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE: THE “PRECISE” “LOCATION AND “DEPTH” OF THE “TREASURE VAULT IS SHOWN. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE IN CHECKING OUT WHAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU.
Facebook message to Traverse Magazine/MyNorth Managing Editor, Lissa Edwards:
November 27, 2014
Lissa, I’m been trying for the past 6 weeks to contact Marty Lagina with no luck. I’d like to talk to him about my gggfather’s journals, John Weems of Greene Co., TN (road surveyor/engineer) who was asked by his grandfather, the Earl of Weymss in 1785 to visit New Wemyss (known as Oak Island) in Nova Scotia to check on interests of the Masons. The Earl of Weymss was a direct descendant of Henry Sinclair through his gggmother, Katherine Sinclair. Many of the Weymss were Grandmasters and Templars and ran a shipping interest from Weymss Bay in the north of Scotland. John’s journals chronicle his trip to Oak Island in 1785, and explain why he went and with whom.. Could you please contact Marty or Rick Lagina and have them contact me at diana@1worldschool.com or 309-738-0265. I am an educator and professional genealogist, as you’ll see by our website, https://www.1worldschool.com/ I’m not interested in anything beyond sharing what I know. Sincerely, Diana Muir, East Moline, IL
Dec. 10 Voice Mail To MyNorth Associate Web Editor Eliza Foster:
Hi, Um my name is Jess Ferris [sp?] calling in respect Oak Island that you’all are covering. I actually am a hydrologist I have a degree in Civil Engineerin. I have kind of studied and I have an idea of how to plug these inlets for the boobie trap. I am sure you have a bunch of people with the same idea. but if you’d like to get a hold of me that would be awesome. Hope y’all have a good day and God Bless.
Comments on the MyNorth.com article Q & A with Oak Island’s Marty Lagina & Craig Tester
David Wray • 10 months ago
Marty, you are in the oil business which has technologies to find oil and gas deposits miles deep. Have you considered seismic? No need to drain the swamp to get a very accurate 3D map of what is underground. What about ground penetrating radar?
Jt Morgan David Wray • 9 months ago
What about a few passes using LiDAR?
Michael Matz Jt Morgan • a month ago
Jt did you ever get a response for the use of LiDAR? It has worked very well on archeological sites.
richard henderson • 10 months ago
When Christabol Colon first sighted land in the Americas, he gave this land the name San Salvador. There is much debate now as to where this was, The Carib Indians called the island guanahani . The most common belief is that the island that he first landed on is now completely under water. Over the years, the ice caps and glaciers have been filling the oceans with water, covering up islands and shore lines, and Colon landed in 12 October 1492. The Knights Templar left 100 years prior to this. So the coast line of Oak Island could very well have been 50 to 100 feet deeper than it is now, the land that you suspect as being booby trapped with water, might have been simply ventilated for breathing purposes. Well above any known shore line at the time.. Just a thought.
roycerson richard henderson • 11 days ago
:/ I don’t believe that for a second. How ’bout 50-100 inches? Where’d you get those crazy numbers?
disqus_HiRqE6Oj0d richard henderson • 9 months ago
That doesn’t explain the rock formations though….
Robot • 10 months ago
The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit
The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.
This organization is known as – The “Free Masons”.
The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s
It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic 33 degree members of the Free Masons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.
These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.
These members were:
Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers – Vice Admiral – Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge – Premier Grand Lodge of England
George Anson, Baron Anson – Admiral of the Fleet
George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle – Commander-In-Chief
Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel – Rear Admiral – Brother to George Keppel
William Keppel – Lieutenant-General – Brother to George Keppel
George Pocock – Admiral – Commander of the Invasion of Havana
and
Benjamin Franklin – First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.
The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed
all forms of secret organizations, including the Free Masons.
The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.
Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.
Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.
The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack.
They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their
plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish Galleons and the 2 British Man of War.
This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.
At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic 13th degree “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which
ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground
and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft. A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever.
The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern below ground was located and could access it by digging down 20 feet.
Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.
The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate the treasure.
1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant
2 drilled holed stones
1 large stone cross
These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is today located.
Is the treasure still in this cavern?
I believe it was removed in 1795
One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.
These lights were made by the Free Masons when they returned for their treasure.
This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States – acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.
The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Free Masons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.
Hank Wanky Robot • 10 months ago
Well that’s interesting. It could explain why no one has found treasure in the Money Pit and could explain the fairly simple cipher on the stone (i.e. if the stone were meant as bait, you’d want to make the cipher fairly easy to translate). But the coconut fibers found on the island are supposedly carbon dated to around 1260 to 1400, centuries earlier than the events in your theory. Also you’re making a lot of very specific factual claims. What are your sources?
jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
coconut fibers were leftover debris they threw into the bay why carbon dating what a waste of time cut down the biggest oak and count the rings then you can really waste more time not finding the treasure.
jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
the rock told how to rebuild the pit after it was burned. have you ever hid the key to your house under a rock or a mat ,this is the same principle, if you ruined the platforms and found the stone the pit would flood! and you were done.The pit has to be rebuilt lit on fire at low tide and let the platforms fall drying the pit So if you did not know that fire was the key you can’t get to the treasure.
Hank Wanky Robot • 10 months ago
While the free mason stuff is interesting (and maybe they were behind all of this), one of the most important books about Oak Island was written by Reginald V. Harris, who was a 33rd degree mason in Nova Scotia. I haven’t read the book, only references by others, but he chronicled the history of the treasure hunt, correct? Wouldn’t he have known about any masonic connection and if the masons had removed any treasure in the past?
Robot Hank Wanky • 10 months ago
The Free Masons’ organization today and before , is very different from the re-established 1717ad English Masons of Washington Shirley and Benjamin Franklin.
I do not believe that Reginald V. Harris was aware of this theory prior to his death.
It has taken many years to unravel this connection to the Free Masons.
I do credit him for a very important find which is the corner stone for the rediscovery of the lost cavern.
When the final chapter is revealed he will receive his credit.
disqus_HiRqE6Oj0d Hank Wanky • 9 months ago
Theory.
Applied Science Robot • 5 days ago
Hi robot. I have read your posts on here and agree with much of what you have to say. The only part I question is the removal of the treasure. You state that lights are what attracted McGinnis to the island, as the Masons were removing the treasure. The problem is, wouldn’t McGinnis and his friends have discovered the spot where they just dug a 20 foot deep hole on the other side of the island where you claim the actual vault is? Instead the spot they thought was peculiar was the money pit site where what appeared to be a sinkhole with a block hanging from a tree. One would think they searched the whole island, as it is realativly small. I for one think the exact location was lost to time and that it remains on the island wherever that may be. Also very strange that all of a sudden 2 members of Rick and Marty’s team are Freemasons. I think they are looking for it too and want to keep it a secret. As you state the Masons of today are not the same as the old world members so none of them in America would have been privy to the knowledge. Thank you for your time and I welcome a theory.
Robot Applied Science • 4 days ago
Yes, It was the American Freemason’s ships lights which were seen by the first discoverers when these Freemasons returned for their treasurers.
They knew the precise location of their Treasure Vault and all they had to do was dig a small inclined entry into it and camouflage this entry with rocks or vegetation.
I will divulge here that I now show the location for this Treasure Vault to be located at the tip of the North/West end of the Island and to be located roughly 50 feet off shore.
Their marker Star Gamma Cassiopeia shows with the triangulation this to be the fact.
The Cornish Tin Miners dug tunnels in Cornwall out under the ocean’s floor looking for tin.
Some were noted to have been so close to the ocean’s floor that you could hear the waves inside them.
This is why to date no treasure hunter has been able to locate this Vault from the surface by sonar or metal detecting.
The Money Pit played its part as bait to the earlier discoverers and most all treasurer hunters to this day, as they spent their time and effort trying to dig this obvious location up while all along like the doors to Fort Knox it was tripped and sealed to all intruders protecting any entry through it up into the Treasure Vault.
Applied Science Robot • 4 days ago
Your theory about a tunnel upwards from the money pit, that was never intended to be used again, is interesting and plausible. I don’t doubt the skills of the miners at the time and digging under the ocean is possible, especially in clay which is almost impervious to water. However it seems unlikely in my opinion the Masons would have been able to excavate a pit under water on the ocean floor in one night. Did they have under water breathing equipment in 1795? Seems like a large undertaking for the time period. I believe the treasure, whatever it may be, is at the money pit area. Digging a vertical hole that deep to bedrock would have been a huge project at the time. My concern at this time is that the treasure may have been destroyed by all the digging and core drilling done over the years. If it was manuscripts buried down there, they are surely lost. One drill bit is reported to come up with parchment on it.
Robot Applied Science • 4 days ago
No, they would have entered this Vault from an inclined entry starting on the “Shore” and going down under the ocean floor.
Once again!
Nothing is at the bottom of the Money Pit except the collection of garbage placed there by these Freemasons.
Robot Applied Science • 5 days ago
Yes, I agree that when the American Freemasons brought their ships to Oak Island in 1795 to retrieve their treasures it was these ships lights that were visible to the early discoverers of Oak Island.
These Freemasons knew exactly where to make the entry hole to the Treasure Vault.
It was easy to camouflage this entry, I would presume a large bolder is where this entry is.
What I have never divulged (until now) is that this Treasure Vault is really located, I would presume from my calculations to the Star – Gamma Cassiopeia roughly 50 feet off the Island under the ocean.
The Cornish Tin Miners were expert miners and in Cornwall, England would tunnel under the ocean, at times so near the ocean floor one could hear the waves inside their tunnels.
This to date has prevented any modern treasure hunters from using radar or sensors to locate it.
The entry hole made by the Freemasons would have been a gradual sloping hole down into the Vault.
The Money Pit was an obvious bait taken by these treasure hunters and all the past treasure hunters to date.
Once the water trap was sprung and the door closed it was as good as Fort Knox locking out any unlawful entry to proceed down it and once again up into the Treasure Vault.
jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
did anyone read my post its that simple
Robot jerry satter • 10 months ago
The Money Pit’s main shaft was never intended to be used again to recover the
treasure, especially once the air lock at level eight was punctured and the shaft was flooded.
The Free Masons only used this shaft as a means to conceal their treasure and transport it up into the cavern.
The cavern was located some distance away from the Money Pit and above the ground level, so it could not be flooded and damaged.
This cavern would be accessible to the Free Masons by them triangulating the
coordinates with the use of the markers left behind and a set degree on the
Sextant.
Once they recovered the treasure (1795) they concealed the small entry hole
needed to remove it and whisked the treasure away to its new home and purpose
jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
if that was the case and the treasure was gone why would they rebuild the platforms.Now try boiling the water out of the pit at low tide it would be cheap to try it
Robot jerry satter • 10 months ago
Your ideal on how to drain the Money Pit is original, but I would presume
that it is flawed with the belief that the flood tunnels do not extend past low tide.
It is also believed that with the ingenious design of the flood tunnel to Smith Cove there is also a similar flood tunnel to South Cove.
The construction labour for these tunnels was done by the best miners in the world at the time.
Cornish Tin Miners were employed by the Royal Navy for military expeditions, such as the invasion of Havana.
Once the treasure was secured in the cavern the Free Masons
back filled the tunnel from the cavern back to the Money Pit as it was no
longer needed and to prevent any attempt to access it.
All the metal parts from the Spanish Galleons and any evidence of them having been on the island were placed at the bottom of the Money Pit shaft.
The dirt excavated from the shaft was back filled back into the shaft to conceal the entrance and discourage any followers.
jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
everyone is concerned about the length of the flood tunnels and not the valves that control the tide in the pit.If you look at it like it was a toilet 90 feet under ground theres a trap in it so you cant pump it out because they would refill. you have to push it out the valves and change the pressure differential in the pit to be less then the smaller flood tunnels pressure thus closing the valves look at the construction of the pit platforms and it will become obvious,the oak and fiber would burn and slowly fall and push down as it burned.What i need is marty laguina email or phone number.
jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
they do not answer there emails
Robot jerry satter • 9 months ago
I know, I have not been able to post on my own on this site either
This is an interesting read which will explain that the wood previously in the Oak Island shaft is no longer there.
https://oakislandtreasure.co.uk…
There are also numerous shafts dug around it through out the years
The evidence, objects and clues found all pointed to one logical explanation.
That being the “truth” – The Freemasons built it!
“… when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth…”
Start by eliminating the “impossible” as to who could not
have built it.
This lies with the “probable” time line of construction
It is claimed that the three discoverers found the pit in 1795 ad
If the information as to the large mature Oak Tree capable of supporting the Block and Tackle hanging over the Pit is correct than it would have been a tree of at least 75 years of age.
Experts state that Oak trees (not of old growth oak forests) have a
tree life span of from 100 – 150 with 125 being the middle years.
This would place the earliest construction of the Money Pit at around 1745 ad
The Oak wood from the platforms carbon tested in 1981 to 1670 ad – 1780 ad
https://www.oakislandtreasure.c…
The use throughout the Pit and Tunnels of Coconut Fiber would prove
that no construction earlier than the 1700 ad would have been possible.
Coconut Trees were only introduced outside of Malaysia after 1550 ad
and the Coconut Fiber was not possible for use until the latter part of
1600’s with no known industry producing the coconut fiber.
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-on…®ion_ID=8&page=spread&ref=coconut
Other items located on Oak Island support 18th century:
Boatswains Whistle
Wrought Iron ruler
Wrought Iron Scissors
Wrought Iron Nails
Iron Fragments
Cornish Poll-Pick, Axe
Shoe
Block and Tackle
Parchment Fragment
This all supports a time line of around 1750 ad and eliminates Vikings,Druids and Knight Templars as being possible builders.
Pirates would also have been unlikely to have constructed a Treasure Vault
on Oak Island.
It would have been an unnatural behavior for Pirates to go to this extreme
and leave any sort of treasure for any length of time.
Oak Island is located 40 miles south of Halifax, Nova Scotia, in an enclosed Mahone Bay
After the 1600’s, Halifax was England’s central location for its Royal Navy in the New World.
Mahone Bay would have been a one way trap for any Pirate going in or
out with them being very conspicuous.
Oak Island in 1762 ad, was a fortunate and planned choice for
the Freemasons, as It was far easier to conceal their treasure in the New
World with the help of the Royal Navy and the Masonic organization presently there.
Noted New world Free Masons:
Johnathan Belcher – Lieutenant Governor of Nova Scotia (1760 – 1763)
He was based in Halifax Nova Scotia and was in charge over the Royal
Navy at what is Oak Island.
His father was Jonathan Belcher senior, first Freemason of North
America and the “Senior Freemason of America”
John Mitchell – creator of the Mitchell map 1755 ad
He was stationed in Halifax and provided a very concise map showing
the islands around Nova Scotia and what is today Oak Island.
The “true” builders of Oak Island Treasure Pit who had the motive, opportunity and the best ability were the “Freemasons”.
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jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
have you ever seen a chimney fire imagine a 90 foot tall one
jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
where do you get this fantasy info
Robot jerry satter • 9 months ago
I have spent 20 years dealing with the fantasy of Oak Island
If mankind’s own imagination or fantasies had not challenged the desires to search out and solve the mysteries in front of him, then the great discoveries of our world would not have taken place.
The “Wheel” may not have been invented, now found in everything from
clocks to vehicles to turbines.
“The World is Flat”, would have discouraged Columbus from discovering America, and “The Earth being the Center of the Universe”, could have halted space exploration.
“Ask a child to name an ancient Egyptian ruler and they will either say Cleopatra or Tutankhamen.
The reason for this is the excavation of the latter’s tomb by Howard Carter in 1922 in the Valley of the Kings. Such was the wealth of treasures and objects in the tomb, and Carter’s meticulousness, it took eight years to empty the tomb and transport its contents to Cairo.”
“Heinrich Schliemann would not have discovered Troy, along with
the Mycenaean sites Mycenae and Tiryns from his idea that Homer’s Iliad and Virgil’s Aeneid, actually reflected historical events”
No, skepticism only pushes on true discoverers to find the real truth to mysteries!.
They realize the logical evidence discovered will weigh in their favor, and one day prove that something of great importance is or was buried at “Oak Island”.
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jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
i am just trying to empty a pit full of water not reinvent the wheel.columbus did not discover america Blame the teacher not the child,1922 travel in egypt was really really slow.
Robot jerry satter • 9 months ago
Columbus did discover both Central and South America on his third voyage. He was not the first to arrive in North America as that distinction goes to the Vikings.
The difference between “Skeptics” and “True Discoverers” is that Skeptics see the Money Pit as “half full of water” and Discoverers see it as being “half empty”.
jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
i believe its a pessimist and an optimist,and again why put charcoal on a platform unless your going to burn it! am i the only one that sees this obvious solution.
Robot jerry satter • 9 months ago
Charcoal, which is the ash from the burning of the ships wood + Clay, from the ground + Coconut Fiber, which is an excellent matting and resilient to salt water = Cement
This creates a powerful waterproof sealant, equal to Fiberglass (which had not been invented then).
Manuel Correia Robot • 7 months ago
Robot, im from S.Miguel island of azores, i admire your knowlege and percepction of the oak island history, i share the same opinion , that the treasure have been removed long time ago , and like you say the money pit was just used to hide the treasure, just used once. In actualy i hope explorers can find what was hidden in that cave , to close that chapter and see if was just money ,or something else like docments(remember that liquid mercury was found generaly used to preserve paper)
Motorheadmaster@hotmail.com, i leave my mail if you want to share some story or fact Robot
Robot Manuel Correia • 7 months ago
Hi Manuel
I have emailed you my Celestial Map of where the Freemason’s Treasure Vault is located
The Freemasons used the information supplied by their esteemed friend and
associate Sir Francis Bacon to build the Oak Island Money Pit for their purpose and to change the course of mankind.
I trust that today we are capable of understanding what this treasure’s true
purpose was created for and how we all have benefited from it!
jerry satter Robot • 9 months ago
you are correct in its wet state. but this platform was above the flood level so it was dry, oak, coconut fiber pitch charcoal in its dry state is unbelieveably hot and puts out a lot of BTUs.I cant imagine burning a ship when it was easier to just scuttle it and sink it , it wasn’t clay it was wax and pitch and putty and they didn’t need much of that. All the fuss about the coconut fiber is hype. It was used in the hold of ships for years as a packing material to keep things in place so they did not shift around in the high seas.
jerry satter Robot • 10 months ago
level 8 was sealed to keep the wood dry. and they used oak for its btu rating extremely hot.Theres no traps this is common sense start a fire!!!!
Roger Marshar • 10 months ago
The diver was WORTHLESS! At no point did his tank go completely under! So he could have never reached more than 4 feet down! They needed a backhoe! If they truly did find a coin at this location, that is more evidence than has ever been recovered. I would have had heavy equipment there the next day.
CUTSTUD • 10 months ago
Why can’t the source of the water be blocked? then to pump the tunnels dry?
Scott_Wellman • 10 months ago
Marty, loved the series. I believe that Oak Island was two islands at one time. The separation would be from the swamp to the other side, so the swamp was man made. There was once a channel there, all they had to do is stop it at both ends and then do whatever they had to do and refill. Did you coil the whole area? Also you can see what I am talking about by using GE, it’s as plain a day. Any thoughts?
Christian • 10 months ago
Rick and Marty I may have an explanation for the readings in the swamp disappearing. When the diver took the rocks out the readings on the metal detector were gone. Listen i would scan the metal detector over the rocks or break them open with a sledge hammer and see what you find. The answer may hide inside those rocks, I really think it’s possible..
Bob • 10 months ago
Rick (and Marty),
Thanks for the adventure. Just like you, I read that article in 1965 as a kid, and have amused myself and others over the years thinking and dreaming about it. Just re-found the facts list on activemind.com, and that is quite a list of finds that indicate there must be a path to the treasure, designers who planned such a system would have likely left a relatively easy way in for those who know or find the solution method. The enigma of our lifetimes it is (positively) haunting. You’re living my dream, please keep going!
jerry satter • 10 months ago
marty all you had to do is start a bon fire at low tide on top of the money pit and the fire slowly burning and boiling off the water would close the valves and empting the pit,when the tide came in the water would push down on the valves keeping them closed until they manualy filled the pit with water defeating the closed valves,letting the water back in.you can test this with a bottle and straws with plugs in them.Thats why the boys seen the fire on the island,thats why you could not steal the treasure they would see the fire for miles.way to simple and ingenius.
EDWARD • a month ago
they have played the odience, marty and rick have already found the treasure. they have enough money to escavate area. and work the swamp like la brea tar pits with beams and pumps, use escavaters, and their combined knowledge, so their liars, i can see through the lies. I am an engineer. these guys are just screwwin around and (not) getting the job done right.
( some one is going to get injured or killed ) hard hat area.. like a buisness.. IDIOTS!
Frank Peterson • 10 months ago
Hi Rick and Marty, First of all I love the series and what you are trying to find. I would suggest stay with your plans and drain the swamp, then the area you got the metal detector hits, rent a 270 excavator and dig up that section of the swamp. Then sift the material like you would gold mining, or hopefully you will uncover the vault and you will have the right equipment to get to it. I just want you to be safe because of the traps that have been in place for years. One thing I am sure of you two will find a treasure, besides what would a Spanish pieces of 8 be doing in that location where you are?
carrol p • 10 months ago
I AGREE with Roger, that diver was worthless and I immediately wondered what he was up to. You don’t have that much color show up on the sonar and then, “Oh my gosh, it’s GONE ” ! He planned to come back when they were gone. He went deep a couple times, but mostly stayed on the top. They should have put the metal detector back in, in front of him, to show him they didn’t believe him, that it had just disappeared. I would first of all put trailcams/video cams on the trees opposite the Mercy Spot, connect to a recorder on their home computers, to watch 24-7 who comes & goes there. Then find where to get one of those huge cement cylinders like they use in big city sewers. Using an excavator, on the most solid area, close to the Mercy Spot, drop the cylinder with the long arm and tap it down, as far as it will go. Somehow put one or two large fans on the top to suck out any gases that might come out of the muck as it dries. This way they can get in there and dig themselves without bringing any more people into this, that might have ulterior motives. They can also work all parts of the swamp, moving the cylinder around. I would eventually check into having a plane or copter go all over the island with ground penetrating xrays, like they used in Egypt to locate burial sites. That way they can SEE how many areas might be worth looking into. Sounds like this was several different groups, favorite hiding spots. And Rick, the reason this is pulling at you so strong, is that you were there in another life ! I first tuned in Sat. before the series finale Sun. and immediately thought you looked like a Knight’s Templar. The longer hair, goatee….I can see you dressed in the long white garment with the large red cross on the front, riding a horse, carrying a staff with the cross flag. Your soul knows something is on this island. But be careful….your brother is with you to keep you level-headed, safe. ALWAYS listen to his common sense. God Bless and Good Luck.
Keith McFarlane • 10 months ago
Hello Marty et al you adventurous and yes perhaps obsessed folks.
I have been privileged enough to be able to watch the programs regarding your quest for treasure or whatever on Oak Island on the History Channel, which I have watched with great interest recently here in Trinidad W.I.
I have been on an extended contract, working in the Oil & Gas Industry (3D Designer) here in Trinidad for just shy of 10 Years and 10 years rotational contract in Nigeria West Africa prior to that.and am due to head back home to Scotland next week, after which….who knows.
One thought has come to my mind which you may consider stupid and wasteful of your time, but I thought , why don’t you guys just sink a couple of steel Caissons (say 15ft Diameter) down both the money pit & site 10x or whatever. Doing so, would isolate any inflow of liquids from any tricky boreholes or whatever, that who knows refined and manufactured.
Keith
Scotty Wilson • 10 months ago
Been following this story since I was a kid ~ Was so hoping the season finale was you finding it ~ Your ghost readings are coins being tossed to the side i bet with each handful of muck ~ Look how you had to search through one clump to find the first coin ~ You have that radar there ~ Scan the whole cross area ~ Good luck Guys ~ I hope you find it ~ Scotty
Maybe this has already been discussed. The “drilling bar” has been a major obstruction and needs to be removed. Why not send divers down to attach a collar, or for redundancy several collars to the bar so that it can be attached to a cable and lifted out of the hole with a crane. There’s probably a good reason, but I have wondered.
To the Laginas, have you ever though of using an inflatable bladder to seal off 10x in order to pump out the water or seal the opening and pressurize the shaft to see where the water goes?
Robert Bruce was convinced that Thomas Harding had a treasure that would give him immense power that St. Stephen Harding had brought back from the Holy Land by means of his Knight’s Templar, who he set to trying to find the treasure hidden under the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. It is said that Thomas refused under torture to reveal the location of this treasure. Nevertheless, Robert Bruce became convinced that Thomas or Stephen had hidden the treasure in the Americas and put together an expedition to find and retrieve that treasure. If Thomas actually had made a voyage to Vinland before Robert Bruce captured him, it would have to have been before Thomas went to Rome to be anointed as King of All Britain in 1307. Thomas was a busy man in the years 1295 to 1300 but it is certainly possible for him to have made a voyage to America about this time, though it is more likely that St. Stephen Harding had the Templars or his Cistercian monks deliver it to the Americas for safe keeping.
Personally I believe Thomas’s treasure is not in the money pit.
Isn’t the point of the show that no one knows what’s down there, if anything?
Yep. It is a mystery because they don’t know. Personally I think it could be something unexpected. Just not the Thomas Harding treasure. Whatever that was.
BTW … I love the show.
The point of the show is to get ratings and sell advertisements. It is produced by Prometheus Entertainment, the same outfit that promotes the lies and distortion that is Ancient Aliens. Buried treasure on Oak Island is, and has always been, a hoax. There is no true historical, archeological nor geological basis for the claims this reality television show presents as fact.
The current overly sold reality show; The Curse of Oak Island, is the most drawn out, over talked to death, antidote laden, story telling filled, redundant researched, hit and miss, chasing tails and butterflies on the winds, ego filled, egregious self pandering, over commercialized – televised “Reality” show to hit prime time. So far we’ve been lavished with Viking adventures, Templar Knight escapades, Pirate stories, Free Mason shenanigans, Pilgrim mysteries, Native Indian superstitions, and the hapless misadventures of countless saps who’ve dug up the entire island multiple times to find – Zip, Zero, Nothing! What a bunch of Hooey. The only two things they haven’t included in this Phantasm, yet, are the Magi and Aliens! They can take this programming waste of time and shove it straight up the fundaments of Marty and Rick Lagina!
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. And speaking of over talked to death, your snotty yammer went on about a paragraph too long. BTW, it’s anecdote, not antidote.
Grammar terrorists never win their rebuttal points or arguments. As soon as someone like you who is an obvious a Sap for scripted and produced “reality TV” that is nether reality nor a discovery, attacks those who don’t like being suckered by a farce, and then has nothing to stand on other than ” if you don’t like don’t watch it!” and you used the wrong word!!! Well, I imagine you’re television carp – AKA – sucker! You’d bite on anything, including crap. Say’s a lot about your intelligence. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz off!
What are you, twelve? If juvenile attempts at insulting me are the best you can do, go back to fifth grade. You’re way out of your depth here with the grown ups.
Test your intelligence at this site:
http://www.criticalenquiry.org and click on the Oak Island tab.
After you’ve read the articles there and checked the original sources, come back and see if you can present a viable argument for treasure on Oak Island.
Hmpf, since you must BRAG about your Intelligence Quotient, and go to great lengths to rebut me, and the fact that you’re an online twit looking for a fight – all goes to prove to me and others, you have a mental screw loose and a self image problem. I.Q’s mean nothing – It’s the application of common sense, true creative thinking, plus ability that separates the arrogant mouthed know-it-all’s from those with real talent. I’ve known many who can claim high I.Q’s, but are dumber than a box of rock’s when it comes to living life. I have a hunch, you’re one of them. You’re fluctuating I.Q numbers add up to – zero, zip, nada, squat!